PHD Extract - Alternate Options to using WAO LIMS

Hi John
We cannot install PHD-Extract on the PHD Shadow it uses the client API and the firewall and QUASAR to ALCOA trust is one way (the reverse which why I wanted to have the Shadow on the Alcoa domain.) In the QUASAR domain the only option would be the IAPP but then we still need a system to fetch the created files. With this in mind this morning I spoke to Perry about the options below and he will be speaking to Dennis Maison :-
1) Install PHD-Extract on WAO LIMS. (yes we know this is a noway hosa to slow.)
2) Site based desktop with PHD-Extract sending the file to WAO-LIMS ATPMQ.
3) Loading PHD-Extract on each site IAPP node and using Biztalk to collect the files and forward to the Biztalk ATPMQ.
There are pro's and con's to each not the least is after hours support for Biztalk server. Then there's the final solution which ends back at site when the final XML solution is in place so even through it sound like you are giving ownership to someone else it will eventually return to you.
Mainframe operation only support the IBM machine and OS there is no option for them to support an Intel , Microsoft , Honeywell and Alcoa software solution (they don't even support ROT which is a mainframe app).
Regards
Terry
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From: Halford, John
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:16
To: Thomson, Terry; Dirckze, David; Davies, John
Cc: Hameister, Geoff
Subject: RE: PHD to ROT transfer using the WAO LIMS Server.
Is it possible to get the extract run on each of the site PHD Shadow servers and then Robocopy the data file to a central server which has MQSeries installed to enable the data to be entered into ROT? The idea of having the central computer with MQSeries was previously discussed. This could reduce the licence costs for MQSeries as well as simplifying the data transfer process. This would be similar to our process for transferring data from the Instrument PC’s to the LIMS Server.
My idea would be to have a central computer which was managed by the mainframe operators. Data files would simply be transferred from the sites to a share on the central computer and from there the data would be entered in to ROT using MQSeries.

_____________________________________________From: Thomson, Terry Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 15:53To: Dirckze, David; Davies, John; Halford, John; Waldby, Andrew; Hameister, GeoffSubject: PHD to ROT transfer using the WAO LIMS Server.

Hi all
I have been testing the performance of PHD-Extract using the WAO LIMS as follows :-
1) Pinjarra of course because the WAO LIMS server is at Pinjarra is not impacted by moving the software from the current Pinjarra LIMS server. The time for an hour extract took 16 seconds.
2) Wagerup hour extract on WAO LIMS took 7 minutes to complete where it took approximately 1 minute on the Wagerup LIMS.
3) Kwinana hour extract on WAO LIMS took 57 minutes to complete where on it took approximately 7 minutes on the Kwinana LIMS.
Suggest that using the WAO LIMS to extract PHD to ROT data for at least Kwinana and maybe Wagerup impracticable and an alternate site computer will be required to perform this task. This also make it impractical to use a Booragoon central server to perform the data extract.
Feedback requested.
Regards
Terry